5E5-A Tweed Pro‑style · 1956–1960 · 30 W

draft

Verification details

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DC operating point Within target
15 reference nodes are within tolerance. The circuit remains a draft awaiting maintainer review.
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Connectivity of modelled components is checked on every change.
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Connectivity of modelled components is checked on every change.
  • This does not establish heater wiring or physical spacing.
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No disagreement is listed in the published comparison.
  • A finding identifies a difference or a coverage gap. The factory source must decide which drawing, if either, needs correction.
  • 3 sheet-only parts are explicitly excluded: C16, C9, VR5. Heaters and the pilot lamp are checked separately.
Heater and filament wiring Not established
The drawn supply-leg connections have not been established by this check.
  • Supply-leg grouping still needs confirmation at V1, V2, V3.
  • V1: pins [4, 5] are one leg at 6.3 V and opposite legs at 12.6 V
Capacitor polarity Checked
7 capacitor markings agree with the model's voltage ordering.
  • This check uses DC voltage ordering; source review establishes markings the model cannot decide.

Archive revision ebddc3f. Published corrections. These checks do not certify a physical build.

Schematic — redrawn in KiCad · scroll to zoom, drag to pan

Machine-checked drawing. This sheet is checked in CI against the netlist the simulation solves: every component the netlist models is proved to have its terminals on the same nodes in this drawing as in that netlist, so the picture and the maths cannot drift apart.

Details

The check compares connectivity, and only as far as the netlist reaches. It does not check component values, and it does not prove the netlist itself a faithful reading of the factory drawing — that rests on the operating-point comparison below and on the cited sources. The netlist is a DC model, so what it leaves out is drawn here but outside this check: the supply front end ahead of the first rail, transformer winding resistance, the volume / tone / mixer control networks and the capacitors inside them, and the heater and AC-side wiring. Separate checks cover drawing-to-board agreement, declared heater circuits and polarity where the model can decide it; see Verification details for their coverage and findings. Every abstraction this circuit relies on is declared as reviewable data in its own sch_map.yaml, and the CI report enumerates each terminal left unchecked.

Board layout — redrawn reference diagram · source noted on the drawing Print sheet ↗
5E5-A eyelet board layout — an original diagram redrawn from the published layout drawing, showing the principal parts in the order that drawing places them on the board, drawn in the period layout-sheet style with each value lettered on the part.

Scroll the drawing sideways to read the whole board — the source line and the colour legend run along the bottom of the sheet — or open the full-size diagram in its own tab. Values are lettered on the parts in the period shorthand — .02-400, 250-5, 1MEG: how to read it.

Machine-checked wiring. Every modelled part the operating-point netlist places on this board has been verified in CI, terminal for terminal, to be electrically equivalent to the circuit's simulated netlist. This diagram documents connectivity and part arrangement — it is not a dimensioned 1:1 build template.

Details

The modelled parts are the tube sockets, the plate, cathode and grid-leak resistors, the power-rail droppers, and the coupling and bypass capacitors whose two leads are both named DC nodes; the check proves the same net structure, with no missing or extra connections. Parts outside that DC model — the volume / tone / mixer control-network internals, the negative-bias front end, and the heater chain, pilot lamp and power-transformer / rectifier AC side — are drawn from the cited sources but are outside this DC equivalence check. Separate checks compare the drawings and examine declared heater circuits and polarity; see Verification details for their coverage and findings.

Board and part positions are drawn at diagram scale, and lead dress, grounding paths, and physical spacing all matter in a high-voltage chassis. If you build from it, verify every connection against the schematic above and the operating-point table below as you go.

Operating point vs. published chart

Chart values read from the published drawing — or, where the drawing carries no voltage chart, from the cited published measurements (never reproduced). The simulated column is this circuit's own netlist solved in ngspice by the run that gates it; every deviation beside it is those two numbers compared, not a separately stated figure. Tolerances are this project's verification targets: tube-pin nodes carry the tolerance the cited source states, or ±20% — the era's printed convention — where it states none, and power rails are held to tighter internal targets.

Node Chart Simulated Deviation Tolerance Note
BP1 390 V 390.0 V 0.0% ±10% rectifier output and power-tube plate node, ahead of the choke — the simulation drives this node at the printed figure, so it matches by construction
BP2 385 V 388.2 V 0.8% ±10% screens node, after the choke (DCR estimated at 110 Ω)
BP3 300 V 315.0 V 5.0% ±10% driver/phase-inverter node, after the first 10 kΩ dropper
BP4 250 V 263.1 V 5.2% ±10% preamp node, after the second 10 kΩ dropper
PAY1 125 V 136.0 V 8.8% ±20% V1A (instrument channel) plate — printed on the layout page at this plate's eyelet; the schematic page prints no V1 plate figure
PAY2 125 V 136.0 V 8.8% ±20% V1B (mic channel) plate — the layout page prints the same +125 V at this plate's eyelet
KAY 1.9 V 2.1 V 9.7% ±20% V1's shared 820 Ω cathode (both triodes), printed on both pages
P2A — 132.3 V — — informational — V2A's plate, which is also the cathode follower's grid; neither page prints a figure here
K2A 1.9 V 2.0 V 3.3% ±20% V2A (gain stage) cathode, 1.5 kΩ bypassed by 25 µF — printed on both pages, the same figure as V1's cathode
KCF 130 V 134.2 V 3.2% ±20% V2B (cathode follower) cathode, 100 kΩ to ground — printed on both pages. Consistent with V2A's printed cathode: a follower at 130 V holds its grid, V2A's plate, near 128 V, so V2A's 100 kΩ load drops about 122 V from the 250 V rail — 1.2 mA, or 1.8 V across its 1.5 kΩ against the printed 1.9 V
G3A — 0.0 V — — informational — the driver's grid, returned to ground through the tone network's resistive branch (220 kΩ, 100 kΩ, 220 kΩ); no figure is printed and none is needed, since no grid current flows
K3A 1.6 V 1.6 V 1.4% ±20% V3A (12AX7 driver) cathode, 1.5 kΩ — printed on both pages. The 100 kΩ feedback resistor and the Presence control land on this node too
P3A 190 V 206.9 V 8.9% ±20% V3A (driver) plate, 100 kΩ load from the 300 V rail — printed on the layout page at this plate's eyelet. Consistent with the printed cathode: 1.6 V across 1.5 kΩ is 1.07 mA, and 300 V less 107 V is 193 V
PPI 245 V 256.7 V 4.8% ±20% V3B (cathodyne) plate, 56 kΩ load from the 300 V rail — printed on the layout page at the eyelet feeding the upper output coupler. Consistent with the cathode pair: 55 V across 56 kΩ is 0.98 mA, the same current the 58 V / 56.5 V pair implies
KPI 58 V 59.9 V 3.2% ±20% V3B (cathodyne) cathode, 1.5 kΩ above the 56 kΩ leg
JPI 56.5 V 58.3 V 3.2% ±20% 1.5 kΩ/56 kΩ junction — the cathodyne grid's DC reference through the 1 MΩ leak; the printed 58/56.5 pair implies about 1 mA through both legs
G61 −32 V −32.0 V 0.0% ±10% 6L6GB fixed bias via 220 kΩ from the −32 V supply (zero grid current, so this equals the bias rail exactly)

Tube-pin nodes are checked at the tolerance the cited source states, or at the era's ±20% convention where it states none; power-rail nodes are held to tighter internal verification targets. Simulated figures are the netlist's DC solution, not measurements from a chassis.

The output stage behind these numbers can be drawn: the load line explorer plots this circuit's 6L6GB pair at the DC operating point its netlist carries — 390 V on the plates with a −32 V grid bias — and marks where the load line crosses. This circuit is published as a draft, so that operating point is not verified against a published chart: the table and notes above say what each figure rests on.

Parts list

Every designator in this list appears on the schematic above, and every designator on the schematic appears here — the two are checked against each other in both directions, a valve's two halves counting as one bottle (V1A and V1B are both V1). Five parts the drawing carries as annotations rather than numbered symbols are listed here without designators, and stand outside that check. Both pages draw two input jacks per channel (1 and 2), each with its own 68 kΩ stopper into the channel's grid (R1s/R3s Instrument, R2s/R4s Mic), and hang the channel's one 1 MΩ leak from jack 1's tip; jack 2's contact rests on jack 1's tip. The interstage coupler C1 is the one part the schematic page leaves unlettered: the layout page prints 0.02 µF · 600 V on the coupler whose eyelet carries the driver plate's +190 V. Dropper wattages are not marked on the drawing. Parts on the mains side of the power transformer (fuse, switches, AC-line caps) are listed without designators.

RefPartValue / ratingRole
R1s Carbon comp resistor 68 kΩ · ½ W Instrument-channel grid stopper (jack 1)
R3s Carbon comp resistor 68 kΩ · ½ W Instrument-channel grid stopper (jack 2)
R2s Carbon comp resistor 68 kΩ · ½ W Mic-channel grid stopper (jack 1)
R4s Carbon comp resistor 68 kΩ · ½ W Mic-channel grid stopper (jack 2)
RG1 Carbon comp resistor 1 MΩ · ½ W Instrument input grid leak
RG2 Carbon comp resistor 1 MΩ · ½ W Mic input grid leak
RL1 Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W V1A (instrument) plate load
RL2 Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W V1B (mic) plate load
RK1 Carbon comp resistor 820 Ω · ½ W Shared V1 cathode bias
C4 Electrolytic capacitor (dual can) 25 µF + 25 µF · 25 V Shared V1 cathode bypass
C5 Coupling capacitor 0.02 µF · 600 V V1A → instrument volume
C6 Coupling capacitor 0.02 µF · 600 V V1B → mic volume
VR1 Audio-taper potentiometer 1 MΩ Instrument volume (100 pF bright cap across it)
C16 Capacitor 100 pF Bright cap, the Instrument volume's hot lug to its wiper (printed .0001; the Mic volume has none)
VR2 Audio-taper potentiometer 1 MΩ Mic volume
RMX1 Carbon comp resistor 270 kΩ · ½ W Instrument-channel mixing resistor
RMX2 Carbon comp resistor 270 kΩ · ½ W Mic-channel mixing resistor
RL3 Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W V2A plate load — the layout page solders it across the V2 socket, from the follower's plate (pin 6, on the +250 V rail) to V2A's plate (pin 1)
RK2 Carbon comp resistor 1.5 kΩ · ½ W V2A cathode bias
C4b Electrolytic capacitor 25 µF · 25 V V2A cathode bypass
RF1 Carbon comp resistor 5 MΩ · ½ W V2A grid reference, returned to the tone network's bass-branch node on the far side of the 0.1 µF coupler, which its own 220 kΩ leak holds at 0 V DC
RKCF Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W Cathode-follower (V2B) load — the follower's cathode is the tone network's source
C8 Capacitor 250 pF Treble cap, the follower's cathode to the Treble pot's end lug (printed .00025 on the schematic page, 250 MMFD. on the layout page)
VR4 Audio-taper potentiometer 1 MΩ Treble — its wiper is the tone network's output, straight to the driver's grid
C7 Film capacitor 0.01 µF · 400 V Treble shunt cap, the Treble pot's cold end lug to ground
C14 Coupling capacitor 0.1 µF · 200 V Bass-branch coupler, from the follower's cathode
RSH Carbon comp resistor 220 kΩ · ½ W Bass-branch leak to ground
RSL Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W Bass-branch series resistor, into the Bass pot's wiper
VR3 Audio-taper potentiometer 1 MΩ Bass — the bass branch lands on its wiper; one end lug is grounded, the other returns to ground through 0.005 µF
C15 Film capacitor 0.005 µF · 600 V Bass leg cap, the Bass pot's far end lug to ground
RSR Carbon comp resistor 220 kΩ · ½ W Bass wiper → driver (V3A) grid, recombining the two branches — the layout page mounts it between the Bass and Treble pots' wiper lugs
VR5 Audio-taper potentiometer 5 kΩ Presence — a rheostat from the driver's cathode to the presence cap (the layout page straps its wiper to its free end lug)
RNF Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W Negative-feedback resistor, speaker to the driver's (V3A) cathode
C9 Coupling capacitor 0.1 µF · 200 V Presence cap, the Presence pot's wiper to ground
RL4 Carbon comp resistor 100 kΩ · ½ W V3A (driver) plate load
RK3 Carbon comp resistor 1.5 kΩ · ½ W V3A (driver) cathode bias
C1 Coupling capacitor 0.02 µF · 600 V V3A (driver) → cathodyne grid
RL5 Carbon comp resistor 56 kΩ · ½ W Cathodyne plate load
RKA Carbon comp resistor 1.5 kΩ · ½ W Cathodyne bias (cathode → junction)
RKB Carbon comp resistor 56 kΩ · ½ W Cathodyne cathode load (junction → ground)
RGPI Carbon comp resistor 1 MΩ · ½ W Cathodyne grid leak, returned to the junction
C2 Coupling capacitor 0.1 µF · 400 V Cathodyne plate → V4 grid
C3 Coupling capacitor 0.1 µF · 200 V Cathodyne cathode → V5 grid
R5s Carbon comp resistor 1.5 kΩ · ½ W V4 grid stopper
R6s Carbon comp resistor 1.5 kΩ · ½ W V5 grid stopper
RGL1 Carbon comp resistor 220 kΩ · ½ W V4 fixed-bias grid leak
RGL2 Carbon comp resistor 220 kΩ · ½ W V5 fixed-bias grid leak
RD1 Power resistor 10 kΩ Rail dropper BP2 → BP3 (+385 V → +300 V)
RD2 Power resistor 10 kΩ Rail dropper BP3 → BP4 (+300 V → +250 V)
RCHOKE Filter choke ~110 Ω DCR (est.) BP1 → BP2, screens supply
C17 Electrolytic capacitor 16 µF · 450 V Filter, BP1 (+390 V: the rectifier output and the output transformer's centre tap, ahead of the choke)
C10 Electrolytic capacitor 16 µF · 450 V Filter, BP2 (screens)
C11 Electrolytic capacitor 16 µF · 450 V Filter, BP3 (driver/PI)
C12 Electrolytic capacitor 8 µF · 450 V Filter, BP4 (preamp)
RB1 Carbon comp resistor 10 kΩ · ½ W Bias supply series resistor, from the transformer's bias tap into the selenium cell
D1 Selenium rectifier SEL Bias supply rectifier, HT tap -> -32 V
C13 Electrolytic capacitor 100 µF · 25 V Bias supply filter, -32 V
RB2 Carbon comp resistor 56 kΩ · ½ W Bias supply bleeder across the 100 µF can
V1 Preamp tube 12AY7 Instrument + mic first stage (V1A/V1B)
V2 Preamp tube 12AY7 Gain stage + cathode follower (V2A/V2B)
V3 Preamp tube 12AX7 Driver + cathodyne PI (V3A/V3B)
V4 Power tube 6L6GB Push-pull output (upper)
V5 Power tube 6L6GB Push-pull output (lower)
V6 Rectifier tube 5U4GA Full-wave rectifier
T1 Power transformer ~330-0-330 V · 6.3 V · 5 V (est.) HT winding with a centre tap and a bias tap between one end and the centre tap (the layout letters that lead red-blue), 5 V rectifier-filament and 6.3 V heater windings; the bias rectifier is fed through 10 kΩ from the tap, not from a rectifier plate
T2 Output transformer ~4.3 kΩ : 8 Ω (est. for 2x6L6GB into one 15" speaker) Push-pull output
SPKR Speaker 15" · 8 Ω Fixed speaker + external speaker jack
PL1 Pilot lamp assembly pilot lamp Panel pilot lamp, on the 6.3 V heater chain ("TO ALL 6.3 VOLT FILAMENTS AND PILOT LITE", printed on the schematic's rectifier note; layout page also shows a PILOT LITE stub)
— Fuse 3 A Mains fuse, in one conductor of the line cord (annotation only)
— Switch SPST AC (power) switch, in the other conductor (annotation only)
— Switch SPDT Ground switch — throws a 0.05 µF · 600 V cap from chassis to either mains conductor (annotation only)
— Switch SPST Standby switch — drawn on the layout page only (annotation only)
— Film capacitor 0.05 µF · 600 V (×2) AC-line caps: the schematic page draws the ground switch's; the layout page draws a second beside the switches (annotation only)

Circuit story

The last and best-known tweed revision of Fender's Pro amp: a two-channel 12AY7 front end, a second 12AY7 used as a gain stage DC-coupled into a cathode follower, a follower-fed Treble/Bass network with a Presence control, a 12AX7 driver + split-load (cathodyne) phase inverter, and a fixed-bias 6L6GB pair into a single 15-inch speaker. Produced 1956–1960, it is the circuit that reintroduced negative feedback (and the Presence control) after the immediately preceding 5E5 had removed both. Mic and instrument each get their own gain stage before they are mixed, and the mixed signal gets a second gain stage and a cathode follower before the tone controls — the shape the 5F4 Super, 5E4-A Super and 5F6-A Bassman in this corpus also use.

Circuit walkthrough (short form)

Instrument channel (two jacks, a 68 kΩ stopper each, 1 MΩ leak at jack 1) → V1A 12AY7 ↘ Mic channel (two jacks, a 68 kΩ stopper each, 1 MΩ leak at jack 1) → V1B 12AY7 ↗ shared 820 Ω cathode, 100 kΩ plates → 0.02 µF couplers → 1 MΩ INST VOL / MIC VOL pots (a 100 pF bright cap across INST VOL only) → 270 kΩ mixers → V2A, a 12AY7 gain stage (100 kΩ plate, 1.5 kΩ cathode bypassed by 25 µF), DC-coupled into V2B, the same bottle's other section, a cathode follower with a 100 kΩ cathode load.

The follower's cathode feeds the tone network: two branches that recombine at the driver's grid. Treble: 250 pF into the Treble pot, whose other end is bled to ground through 0.01 µF; the pot's wiper is the network's output. Bass: 0.1 µF into a branch with 220 kΩ to ground and 100 kΩ onward into the Bass pot's wiper (one end of that pot grounded, the other returned through 0.005 µF), then 220 kΩ from that wiper to the output. A 5 MΩ resistor runs from V2A's grid back to the bass branch; because the branch's 220 kΩ holds that node at 0 V, it is also V2A's DC grid reference.

→ V3A 12AX7 driver (100 kΩ plate, 1.5 kΩ cathode) → 0.02 µF → V3B split-load cathodyne: 56 kΩ plate, 1.5 kΩ + 56 kΩ under the cathode, 1 MΩ grid leak returned to the junction → 0.1 µF couplers from the cathodyne's plate and cathode into 1.5 kΩ stoppers → 6L6GB pair, fixed-biased through 220 kΩ leaks, screens tied straight to the screens rail → output transformer into the 15-inch speaker (with an external-speaker jack). A 100 kΩ negative-feedback resistor returns from the speaker to the driver's cathode, and the 5 kΩ Presence control hangs on the same node — a rheostat to ground through 0.1 µF, which shunts the fed-back treble away so that turning it up leaves the top end with less feedback.

Power: 5U4GA rectifier → +390 V (power-tube plates, 16 µF) → choke → +385 V (screens, 16 µF) → 10 kΩ → +300 V (driver/PI, 16 µF) → 10 kΩ → +250 V (preamp, 8 µF). A selenium rectifier supplies the −32 V fixed-bias rail: 10 kΩ from a dedicated tap on the transformer's high-tension winding — between one end and the centre tap, the red-blue lead on the layout, never a rectifier plate — into the cell, then a 100 µF can with a 56 kΩ bleeder across it.

The second stage

The J-EE schematic draws V2 as one envelope with both sections in use, and the layout page confirms it at the socket. V2A's 100 kΩ plate load is soldered across the V2 socket from pin 6 — the follower's plate, straight on the +250 V rail — to pin 1, the gain stage's plate. A strap then runs from pin 1 to pin 7, the follower's grid. The follower's cathode (pin 8) runs to the eyelet printed +130 V, which carries the 100 kΩ load to ground and both tone-network feeds. The gain stage's grid (pin 2) goes to the 270 kΩ mixers' junction, and its cathode (pin 3) to the eyelet printed +1.9 V.

The printed figures agree with that reading. A follower's cathode sits a volt or two above its grid, so a follower at 130 V puts V2A's plate near 128 V. V2A's 100 kΩ load then drops about 122 V from the 250 V rail, which is 1.2 mA — 1.8 V across its 1.5 kΩ cathode resistor, against the printed 1.9 V.

Why the topology reads this way

The published tube-complement summaries for this amp are terse — "half 12AY7 / 12AY7 / half 12AX7" per channel plus "phase inverter: half 12AX7 (split load)" — but read as stage chains they resolve to exactly the structure above. Each channel keeps its own first triode. Both channels share a whole second 12AY7, one section a gain stage and the other the cathode follower. The 12AX7's two halves are the driver and the cathodyne. The Treble/Bass network off the follower's cathode is the one the 5F4 Super and 5E4-A Super sheets draw, part for part, from the same Fender drafting office in the same years.

What is legible on this copy of the drawing

The published PDF carries each page as a single 1506 × 864 image, so rendering it at a higher resolution adds no detail. At that resolution every component value on the schematic page is legible, including V2's own resistors (100 kΩ plate load; 1.5 kΩ with 25 µF · 25 V on the cathode; 100 kΩ under the follower) and both rail droppers (10 kΩ each). The schematic page leaves one part unlettered, the 12AX7's interstage coupler; the layout page prints 0.02 µF · 600 V on it. The layout page also prints three plate voltages the schematic page leaves out: +125 V on each of V1's plates, +190 V on the driver's plate and +245 V on the cathodyne's.

Two figures are estimated because no page letters them: the choke's DC resistance (about 110 Ω, from the printed +390 → +385 V drop) and the output transformer's primary impedance.

Verification

Simulation lands all 15 printed nodes within tolerance. The largest deviations are V1's shared cathode at 9.7%, the driver's plate at 8.9% and V1's plates at 8.8%, all against the 20% tube-pin allowance. The rails sit within 5.2% of their printed values against a 10% house tolerance. Both of V2's printed nodes — V2A's cathode and the follower's — land within 3.3%, as does the cathodyne's distinctive 58 V / 56.5 V cathode pair. As a draft circuit these are reported, not gated.

The 100 kΩ feedback resistor is left out of the DC model. At DC it only parallels the driver's 1.5 kΩ cathode resistor through the output transformer's secondary, which moves that node by less than 1%.

The board

The J-EE sheet set carries its own layout page ("FENDER 'PRO-AMP' LAYOUT MODEL 5E5-A"), and the board diagram on this page is redrawn from it, left to right as the sheet reads. The bias supply, the three 16 µF cans and the fixed-bias 6L6GB support sit at the power end, then the driver and cathodyne, then the tone network, the second 12AY7 and the 12AY7 input pair. Column positions are this entry's own placement of that sequence, not a dimensioned transfer of the sheet's grid.

The drawn point-to-point wiring is proved electrically equivalent to the simulated circuit, so a lead traced across the board lands on the node the netlist gives it. One part is drawn where it reads best rather than where the factory mounts it: V2A's 100 kΩ plate load, which the layout page strings across the V2 socket from pin 6 to pin 1, sits on the board beside the stage. The tone network's 0.005 µF and 0.01 µF and its second 220 kΩ hang at the pots, as the layout page draws them. The Presence control with its 0.1 µF, and the Instrument volume's bright cap, are panel parts off the board.

Corrections to this reference

  • — 5E5-A input grid stoppers. Each of the four input jacks now has its own 68 kΩ grid stopper, as both factory pages show. The parts list had described one stopper per channel as representative. No operating point changes. The circuit remains a draft. View correction

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